[Mcls-print-storage] New MCLS print project participants

[Barbara J Cockrell]

All, Thanks to you both for starting the discussion on this issue. I agree that lost/missing is an issue that we need to spend some time on - perhaps during our next call? It has been the issue that I have had most question/concerns about here also. I like Pamela's suggestion that rather than automatically replacing every lost/missing item that we try to set up some simple rules to determine actions, including checking that we really are down to the last copy (maybe a library chose not to deselect). I was also wondering if we might share the cost of replacements - or perhaps pay proportionately based on collection size, deselection pool, acquisitions budget or whatever. Anyway I don't think we should just assume that the library who reports something lost is automatically responsible for the costs of replacing it. Barbara ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pamela A. Grudzien " <grudz1pa@ cmich . edu >
> To: "Robert Kelly" <rkelly4@ emich . edu >, "Barbara J Cockrell" <
> barbara . cockrell @ wmich . edu >
> Cc: mcls -print-storage@ mcls .org
> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 2:22:31 PM
> Subject: RE: [Mcls-print-storage] New MCLS print project participants
> HI Bob and all:
> I agree that the obligation to replace Lost & Missing items is one we
> must resolve. As one of the libraries that has volunteered to have a
> smaller withdrawal list at this time, I share your concern about the
> obligation and expense of replacing old, updated material just so
> there is a copy present in this group's collection. Perhaps some wider
> criteria could be applied to this situation--the WorldCat holdings and
> Hathi Trust elements might be worked into a simple test for
> replacement.
> Also, it might be possible for us to create a simple alert message
> that could go out to the group when the last copy needs replacing. The
> group could discuss and decide if the replacement should be pursued or
> not. This is moving into the realm of cooperative collection
> development, but I think we all realized we would be getting there
> eventually. This seems a nonthreatening step we could take in that
> direction.
> MTC ,
> Pamela
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: mcls -print-storage-bounces at mail. mlcnet .org [ mailto : mcls
> -print-storage-bounces at mail. mlcnet .org] On Behalf Of Robert Kelly
> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 1:16 PM
> To: Barbara J Cockrell
> Cc: mcls -print-storage@ mcls .org
> Subject: Re: [Mcls-print-storage] New MCLS print project participants
> Please see EMU perspective about the next steps and concerns we have
> about the benefits for libraries volunteering to have smaller
> withdrawal picklists and a need to develop a replacement policy for
> lost archived materials.
> Bob Kelly
> Jackie Wrosch
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Barbara J Cockrell" < barbara . cockrell @ wmich . edu >
> To: rick at r2consulting.org
> Cc: mcls -print-storage@ mcls .org
> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 12:49:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mcls-print-storage] New MCLS print project participants
> Sounds good to me!
> Barbara
> From: "Rick Lugg " <rick at r2consulting.org>
> To: "Barbara J Cockrell" < barbara . cockrell @ wmich . edu >, mcls
> -print-storage@ mcls .org
> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 9:47:56 AM
> Subject: RE: [Mcls-print-storage] New MCLS print project participants
> Doug, Barbara--
> You are both correct. Doug is right that the 743,000 number is based
> on library-level 3- circ maximum.
> Barbara is correct in that titles that circulated more than 3 times in
> any library do not appear as part of the 743,000--they appear on
> no-one's list. We should definitely rethink that next time around
> (i.e. Aug/Sept 2013), as it will yield additional candidates.
> My sense from the list is that our working premise is to move ahead
> with that original list of 743,000 -- pending comments from Central
> and Eastern. (Ruth ran into Sandy Yee at ALA and Wayne is good with
> that approach).
> Rick
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mcls -print-storage-bounces at mail. mlcnet .org [ mailto : mcls
> -print-storage-bounces at mail. mlcnet .org] On Behalf Of Doug Way
> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 9:24 AM
> To: Barbara J Cockrell; mcls -print-storage@ mcls .org
> Subject: Re: [Mcls-print-storage] New MCLS print project participants
> Barbara,
> Sorry, I misunderstood what you were saying. I would say our
> preference would be to use the library- circ limit versus the
> total-group circ criteria if we’re going to up the numbers, unless
> you’re able to do what you describe below. I think that means we’re on
> the same page (maybe?). I may have misunderstood what criteria we were
> looking at using, but I thought we could still use the library-level 3
> circ maximum and reach our 700,000+ number. Perhaps I need to reread
> the thread, so someone please correct me if I am wrong.
> Doug
> From: Barbara J Cockrell [ mailto : barbara . cockrell @ wmich . edu ]
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 5:58 PM
> To: Doug Way
> Cc: Randy Dykhuis ; mcls -print-storage@ mcls .org
> Subject: Re: [Mcls-print-storage] New MCLS print project participants
> Doug et al ,
> I don't see how you will have "high use" titles in your pool as
> anything that has circ'd more than 3 times at ANY library won't make
> the deselection candidate list if I'm understanding this correctly.
> I'm more concerned about the situation where several libraries may
> have to retain low (or no use titles) that never made the potential
> candidate list because they happen to be high circulating titles in
> another library (or two) that would probably be only too happy to keep
> that title on behalf of the group. Those titles never appear on the
> radar in our current set up because they have circulated more than 3
> times in certain libraries. See for example Randy's proposed criteria
> title 4 example. CMU , EMU and GVSU should be able to have that title
> on their potential discard list ideally in my opinion. I have no idea
> how many such titles there are likely to be.
> As I said earlier - I am more than willing to be pragmatic about this
> to keep the project moving forward at this stage - we have plenty to
> work on. I just want to be careful about what we lock ourselves into
> for the future.
> Barbara
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