[Mcls-print-storage] New MCLS print project participants

Fri Jan 27 14:22:31 EST 2012

HI Bob and all:

I agree that the obligation to replace Lost & Missing items is one we must resolve.  As one of the libraries that has volunteered to have a smaller withdrawal list at this time, I share your concern about the obligation and expense of replacing old, updated material just so there is a copy present in this group's collection.  Perhaps some wider criteria could be applied to this situation--the WorldCat holdings and Hathi Trust elements might be worked into a simple test for replacement.  

Also, it might be possible for us to create a simple alert message that could go out to the group when the last copy needs replacing.  The group could discuss and decide if the replacement should be pursued or not.  This is moving into the realm of cooperative collection development, but I think we all realized we would be getting there eventually.  This seems a nonthreatening step we could take in that direction. 

MTC,
Pamela

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-----Original Message-----
From: mcls-print-storage-bounces at mail.mlcnet.org [mailto:mcls-print-storage-bounces at mail.mlcnet.org] On Behalf Of Robert Kelly
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 1:16 PM
To: Barbara J Cockrell
Cc: mcls-print-storage at mcls.org
Subject: Re: [Mcls-print-storage] New MCLS print project participants

Please see EMU perspective about the next steps and concerns we have about the benefits for libraries volunteering to have smaller withdrawal picklists and a need to develop a replacement policy for lost archived materials.

Bob Kelly
Jackie Wrosch

----- Original Message -----
From: "Barbara J Cockrell" <barbara.cockrell at wmich.edu>
To: rick at r2consulting.org
Cc: mcls-print-storage at mcls.org
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 12:49:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Mcls-print-storage] New MCLS print project participants

Sounds good to me! 
Barbara 

From: "Rick Lugg" <rick at r2consulting.org> 
To: "Barbara J Cockrell" <barbara.cockrell at wmich.edu>, mcls-print-storage at mcls.org 
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 9:47:56 AM 
Subject: RE: [Mcls-print-storage] New MCLS print project participants 

Doug, Barbara-- 

You are both correct. Doug is right that the 743,000 number is based on library-level 3-circ maximum. 

Barbara is correct in that titles that circulated more than 3 times in any library do not appear as part of the 743,000--they appear on no-one's list. We should definitely rethink that next time around (i.e. Aug/Sept 2013), as it will yield additional candidates. 

My sense from the list is that our working premise is to move ahead with that original list of 743,000 -- pending comments from Central and Eastern. (Ruth ran into Sandy Yee at ALA and Wayne is good with that approach). 

Rick 

-----Original Message----- 
From: mcls-print-storage-bounces at mail.mlcnet.org [mailto:mcls-print-storage-bounces at mail.mlcnet.org] On Behalf Of Doug Way 
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 9:24 AM 
To: Barbara J Cockrell; mcls-print-storage at mcls.org 
Subject: Re: [Mcls-print-storage] New MCLS print project participants 

Barbara, 

Sorry, I misunderstood what you were saying. I would say our preference would be to use the library-circ limit versus the total-group circ criteria if we’re going to up the numbers, unless you’re able to do what you describe below. I think that means we’re on the same page (maybe?). I may have misunderstood what criteria we were looking at using, but I thought we could still use the library-level 3 circ maximum and reach our 700,000+ number. Perhaps I need to reread the thread, so someone please correct me if I am wrong. 

Doug 

From: Barbara J Cockrell [mailto:barbara.cockrell at wmich.edu] 
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 5:58 PM 
To: Doug Way 
Cc: Randy Dykhuis; mcls-print-storage at mcls.org 
Subject: Re: [Mcls-print-storage] New MCLS print project participants 

Doug et al, 
I don't see how you will have "high use" titles in your pool as anything that has circ'd more than 3 times at ANY library won't make the deselection candidate list if I'm understanding this correctly. I'm more concerned about the situation where several libraries may have to retain low (or no use titles) that never made the potential candidate list because they happen to be high circulating titles in another library (or two) that would probably be only too happy to keep that title on behalf of the group. Those titles never appear on the radar in our current set up because they have circulated more than 3 times in certain libraries. See for example Randy's proposed criteria title 4 example. CMU, EMU and GVSU should be able to have that title on their potential discard list ideally in my opinion. I have no idea how many such titles there are likely to be. 

As I said earlier - I am more than willing to be pragmatic about this to keep the project moving forward at this stage - we have plenty to work on. I just want to be careful about what we lock ourselves into for the future. 
Barbara 

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