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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I received about 16 replies to my inquiry about who allows patron devices to connect to their printers and had several requests for a summary so here it is.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Only a few libraries allow patron devices to connect to their printers and most that do use management software where the patrons upload the document to the software and then that connects to the printer rather than having to download the driver from the printer onto the patron device.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>One suggestion was to have a separate printer for patron devices to connect to but we don’t have the demand yet here at Leland to justify the expense. For now we will continue to have patrons either send the documents to their web based email and then access it from our public computers or use a thumb drive to transfer documents from their laptop (no USB ports on iPads) to our computers. We will be getting a replacement printer that has wireless capability but probably won’t allow direct connections from patron devices at least to begin with.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I have copied and pasted the text from the emails I received below. Thanks so much for all the replies it was very informative.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Mark<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Mark...do you use a time/print management product such as SAM or Envisionware? If you do, both products have add on products for wireless printing from wireless devices.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>We have a public printer with wireless capability but my tech guy still won’t let people use it with their own devices. I’m not sure I can say why for sure, but something to do with security, plus they would have to download the printer driver to their device for it to work. I think. I may be way off on why, but he doesn’t allow it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>We have not set up for wireless printing because of concerns that people using our wireless from outside the building will then go away without collecting their printing or paying. If people want to print documents, we suggest that they email the documents to themselves and access their web email on our public PC’s for printing.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>We have just purchased a Ricoh that has that capability. We were due for a new copier anyway and we made sure we got one with wireless because of the amount of requests we were getting. It hasn't been delivered yet so I can't tell you about the technical difficulties. But I did use it at the show room and it was pretty easy to do. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>We don't have a wireless printer (in fact, ours is an HP 4050 that we got through a Gates grant in 2000!), but laptop users can print to it because it's connected to the public network. I know just about enough about this to be dangerous, but if a laptop user chooses to add a printer in devices and printers, then chooses a network printer, their laptop will "find" the HP 4050 and they can connect.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I hope this helps –<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I've gone through months and a lot of hoops with public printing issues in general. For public computer access we use Envisionware which helps us manage wired printing. That's the best solution there so far. This lets us also do wireless printing from Windows OS and Mac OS machines.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> It's so much tricker with mobile OS's. I just bought a Brother HL-6180DW. It's a printer that has AirPrint compatbility and it seems to work well with IOS devices. The downside is the print management features seem to be pretty slim. I think it might let me individually enter in access codes each time I want to let a device print, but I haven't done enough testing yet. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> So really, any AirPrint compatible printer with the addition of print management features should work for you, but it only helps with iOS devices. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Mark--we will be deploying remote printing from patron device later this year.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>We use the Pharos system to log patrons on to our public computers. It logs them out after one hour. It validates with our circulation system that the patron (if using their library card to log in) has no outstanding fines, or it won't log them on. It provides printing capability with a coin box for pre-payment. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>We do not allow patrons to directly access our printers. We bought a Pharos software module that provides wifi printing, but the patron is sending an email into the Pharos system, with a document attached. The patron can be in the building or anywhere on the globe. The print job will be in the system 24 hours. Then the patron can come in, and bring up the print job on the print station, pay, and send it to the printer.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>We don’t allow them to print yet. If I could get it to work with our mconsole print management software (we release the jobs as the patrons confirm the number of pages), I would. I’m very leery about connecting it to our color laser printer – as the cartridges are SO expensive! Will you post summary of answer or send to me if possible – I’m very interested in what the others are doing. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Our public printers are wireless, but linked only to the public computers. We charge 10 cents per page. We block laptops, etc. I did get some IPADs and they have a feature that allows them to print to just about any wireless. Some tablets, such as a Samsung are limited to printing to a specific type of printer. We ended up blocking our printers from IPADs. Basically IPADs are too easy to print to wireless in general.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>This is a large company who operates 'in the cloud' but is really famous worldwide for good, simple service. If you look at their location map it is mostly Richoh (sp?) world wide company and hotels (with various different printers). They broker the job so you don't have so much time walking folks through app installs, etc. And you can offer printing from home if you want. A few libraries around here use that. I think the direct approach for a small library is not very risky, I'd roll it out to staff first, and then a 'soft' opening to those in the public who ask for it. then you'll all know how to use and support this before making the grand announcement. This is a great service to offer! Of course if you really want to spend a pile, Envisionware LDS can take print jobs, can scan to a mobile device, can perform OCR, fax, and you can add a vend unit if wanted. But you'd have to have the $$$ (we are worried about that here!).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>We offer wireless printing for three years now, though we use PaperCut print management software rather than allowing patrons to connect devices to the printer or adding a printer to the wireless network. PaperCut allows us to monitor what is being printed, so we don't end up with reams of unwanted print jobs. Basically, patrons upload documents for printing and then library staff release them from the queue. The drawback is that only Microsoft Word, Excel, PowerPoint, or PDF documents can be uploaded for printing. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>We've had little trouble with it. The company we purchased our copy machine from installed the software. Patrons do use it, not everyday or every week but at least once a month.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>We have 2 printers, one attached to our public computers and we use a “HP Office Jet Pro 8100” for just wireless units. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>http://www.brother-usa.com/Printer/ModelDetail/1/HL5470DW/Overview<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>You could add something like this to your wireless IP space as an inexpensive way to provide wireless printing. We used to have a laser printer on our wireless via a windows share on a machine in the wireless IP space. That worked, but was cumbersome to set up for patrons. The techie at our co-op recommended the Brother printer. It plays nice with different flavors of computers, and does Android / iOS support via AirPrint, GoogleCloudPrint, and an app called Brother iPrint&Scan. Also does PCL6 emulation, so patrons can use a generic PCL driver if the Brother driver is not on their computers. We have ours as a wireless only printer, and it's an honor system to pay.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Right now all of our printers are wireless. However, we do not offer printing from wireless devices. We do not have our patrons sign in to use the wireless internet, so we would not know how to manage all of the printing that would take place. We are very happy with our HP Laser Jet P1606.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>We used to have our public printer on both the wired PAC network and the public WiFi network, because it was a "single" network (IP addresses had the same initial 7 digits, 192.168.1.xxx). The only technical difficulties at that time were helping patrons locate and download the appropriate driver for our now 17 year old printer (newer laptops just don't expect those old printers to still be in use, so they don't come with the right driver installed!).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Now, thanks to a firewall change patrons can no longer access the PAC network, and consequently cannot send print jobs to the printer (wired network is 192.168.1.xxx and wireless is 192.168.2.xxx). If they need to print something we ask them to sign on to a PAC, and if it really must be done from their laptop, I am able to connect their laptop to the network via an extra Ethernet port, in essence disabling their internal WiFi card temporarily). Of course that won't help if they're trying to print from a smart-phone or tablet, but so far one of the two previous work-arounds has always been sufficient.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Something you might want to consider--if you get a printer with wireless capabilities, will it be accessible by your wired network computers? Do you have a firewall which for security reasons prevents your WiFi and wired network from interacting?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Brush Script MT";color:#1F497D'>Mark Morton<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>Technical Services Librarian<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>Leland Township Library<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>203 E. Cedar St.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>P.O. Box 736 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>Leland, MI 49654<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>231-256-9152<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> michlib-l-bounces@mcls.org [mailto:michlib-l-bounces@mcls.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Morton<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 22, 2014 5:02 PM<br><b>To:</b> Mich Lib Listserv<br><b>Subject:</b> [Michlib-l] Wireless Printing<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>We are getting more and more requests from patrons to connect directly to our public printer with their own devices such as laptops and iPads. Our current printer does not have wireless connectivity and we are looking at replacing it (we call it Bob Marley because it keeps on jammin’) We are questioning if we should get one with wireless capability and connect it our public wireless network so other devices besides our public access computers can use it. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I’m wondering if other libraries allow patron devices to connect to their printers and whether or not there been a lot of technical difficulties associated with letting people do this?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Mark<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Brush Script MT"'>Mark Morton<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Technical Services Librarian<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Leland Township Library<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>203 E. Cedar St.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>P.O. Box 736 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Leland, MI 49654<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>231-256-9152<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>