[Michlib-l] Experience with IDDDYSRCC

Fri Jun 3 09:50:24 EDT 2016

FYI.... from PUBYAC today:

Hello, everyone:

I wanted to put everyone at ease and let you know that Aaron Yang is indeed
a real person as I have known him since he was about eight or nine years
old. Aaron is definitely an avid reader and he likes to participate in any,
or all,  library programs he can. However, he does come off rude if he is
overwhelmed or doesn't get his way. Unfortunately, he was released as a
Teen Advisory Board member at the Alhambra Civic Center Library because of
a comment he made to me in an e-mail to which he later replied that he was
sorry for what he said.  As for his claims about the summer reading
programs where he lives, which is where I live and work, we have never
denied him access to registration and prizes, but we were strict about how
many prizes he could get as supplies were limited.

Since I have interacted with Aaron before when I worked at the Alhambra
Civic Center Library, my advice is to stand your ground when it comes to
the prizes. I would still encourage him to sign up for your reading
programs, but let him know that all prizes must be picked up in person. He
may to persuade you to send them to him, but, again, let him know from the
get go that he has to pick up his prize in person or no prize. I totally
agree with sending him a certificate of completion via email for him to
print out if he needs if for school or proof that he completed the program,
but if quantities of prizes are limited than you need to re-iterate that. I
thought I saw on this listserv an email he sent explaining that prizes
awarded competitors more points, but, offer him the suggestion that maybe
he should seek out certificates of completion as big ticket winners if
prizes can't be sent.   I am actually kind of shocked that he threatened a
lawsuit because he wasn't allowed to sign up, but, then again, that's the
way he reacts when it comes to being told "no." Honestly, I would not take
those statements personally or literally, which is why we shouldn't panic
as he usually forgets and moves on. In fact, if it gets to that point,
definitely end the conversation by re-stating the rules and he will more
than likely not sign up or won't communicate with you any longer. Does that
mean he won't try to contact your colleagues? I don't know, but definitely
let your supervisor know that you have had this conversation with him just
so everyone is on the same page. Again, I am not trying to say don't let
him sign up, but firmly tell him that prizes won't be mailed to him and
offer him the suggestion of a certificate of completion.

I am curious to know if anyone said he could sign up (with the
understanding that if he wanted a prize he would have to pick it up) if  he
actually signed up or completed the program? The only reason I ask is I am
not sure if he is signing up for these programs because he is enthusiastic
about libraries and reading or if it's about the free stuff. More than
likely it's the free stuff, but I definitely think each library has the
right to say "no" or "yes."  Going back to the conversation of a  national
summer reading program, it's a great idea, but aren't we already doing that
by offering summer reading programs throughout the country? The differences
between our programs are the rules and rewards so is it a matter of
streamlining our programs where the rules and rewards are the same where
kids and can teens can sign up for as many summer reading programs and get
prizes albeit the same prize? I am definitely interested in exploring this
idea, but we shouldn't have to re-invent the wheel since we already
offering programs right now.

 On that note, try not to let Aaron get under your skin, but remember to be
kind and stand your ground. He's a good kid, but he doesn't understand
boundaries and tends to cross those boundaries to the point where you get
frustrated. Try and have patience, but it's also  okay to say "no." Good
luck and have a fantastic summer!

~Deborah

Deborah Takahashi
Librarian
Pasadena Public Library
Linda Vista Branch|1281 Bryant Street Pasadena, CA 91103
(626) 744-7278
Santa Catalina Branch|999 E. Washington Blvd, Pasadena, CA 91104
(626) 744-7272
dtakahashi at cityofpasadena.net

Thanks,

Erin

*Erin Durrett* | Information Services Librarian

Novi Public Library | 45255 West 10 Mile Road | Novi, MI  48375

T: 248-869-7285  F: 248-869-7239  www.novilibrary.org

*Inform. Inspire. Include.*

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Eric Hayes <ehayes at orionlibrary.org> wrote:

> His letter in the link below sounds like it could be legit, but the
> comments paint a different picture.
>
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> https://www.facebook.com/groups/ALAthinkTANK/permalink/1083169125089240/
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> Eric Hayes
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> Network & Systems Administrator
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> Orion Township Public Library
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> orionlibrary.org <http://www.orionlibrary.org/>
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> w. 248-287-8019
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> c. 248-885-2301
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>
> *From:* michlib-l-bounces at mcls.org [mailto:michlib-l-bounces at mcls.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Dena Moscheck
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 11:53 AM
> *To:* michlib-l at mcls.org
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Michlib-l] Experience with IDDDYSRCC
>
>
>
> I find the whole thing kind of fascinating. I had never heard about it
> until this year, nor even any conversation about it - and now it seems like
> EVERYONE is getting these messages! I finally got "Aaroned" yesterday. I
> don't plan to respond.
>
>
>
> There's been a lot of discussion about what to do on ALSC and PUBYAC
> listservs as well. Some people think it's wonderful that it may (or may
> not) be kid(s) who just want to participate and be involved with libraries;
> most seem to think it's scammy. I think the fact that it doesn't seem like
> we've heard from a single other "participant" - just Aaron Yang - is
> telling.
>
>
>
> *Dena Moscheck *
>
> Children's Department Head
>
> Lapeer District Library
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> *From: *"Denise Bearre" <deniseb at alcona.lib.mi.us>
> *To: *"North Adams Library" <northadamslibrary at gmail.com>
> *Cc: *michlib-l at mcls.org
> *Sent: *Thursday, June 2, 2016 11:44:31 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [Michlib-l] Experience with IDDDYSRCC
>
>
>
> I agree, very interesting. And apparently I was Aaroned yesterday.
>
> Denise Bearre
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> *From:* michlib-l-bounces at mcls.org [mailto:michlib-l-bounces at mcls.org
> <michlib-l-bounces at mcls.org>] *On Behalf Of *North Adams Library
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 11:43 AM
> *Cc:* michlib-l at mcls.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Michlib-l] Experience with IDDDYSRCC
>
>
>
> I thought that email sounded very suspicious. We are a very small library
> and there is no way to justify sending him prizes that are intended for our
> children. My policy on any email asking for something, or to be added to
> our web page, is that it is a bulk email and they will never know what I do
> with it. So it goes straight into the trash.
>
> Phyllis
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> Phyllis Rickard
> Director
> North Adams Community Memorial Library (zv245)
> 110 E. Main St., PO Box 248
> North Adams, MI 49262
> 517-287-4426
> northadamslibrary at gmail.com
> http://www.northadamscml.michlibrary.org/
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> On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 11:33 AM, Klaudia Janek <kjanek at bloomfield.org>
> wrote:
>
> Wow!  Interesting conversation.  I have never heard of this in the school
> library world and we're really dealing with the same patrons.  I'm glad I
> have been paying attention.  What a crazy thing to be happening!  and who
> has this much time on their hands?  I just wonder if public libraries
> around the US are sending this person/group prizes to make it a lucrative
> venture???
>
>
>
> I think I will share with my MAME colleagues and post on LM_NET.  Word
> really needs to get out about this and the delete button taken advantage
> of.
>
>
>
> Klaudia
>
>
> Klaudia Janek, MLIS
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> School Librarian
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> IB Extended Essay Coordinator
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> 248 341 5925
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> http://iamediacenter.blogspot.com
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> International Academy
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> 1020 East Square Lake Road
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> Bloomfield Hills, MI 48304
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> On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Andrea <cosiera at manisteelibrary.org>
> wrote:
>
> This kid is famous. Youth librarians ask each other if they’ve been
> Aaroned yet.
>
> Andrea Cosier
>
> Manistee County Library
>
> *From:* michlib-l-bounces at mcls.org [mailto:michlib-l-bounces at mcls.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Pam Withrow
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 10:18 AM
> *To:* michlib-l at mcls.org
> *Subject:* [Michlib-l] Experience with IDDDYSRCC
>
>
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
>
>
> I got an email from a young man in California wanting to participate (long
> distance) in our Summer Reading Program.  He is a member of the I Double
> Dog Dare You Summer Reading Challenge Contest.  Does anyone have experience
> with this?  It sounds legit, but I would like to hear from past
> participants.
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>
> Pamela Withrow, Director
>
> Forsyth Township Public Library
>
> 180 W. Flint St.
>
> PO Box 1328
>
> Gwinn, MI 49841
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> 906-346-3433
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